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A Bit More on Rape and Chastity

March 28, 2012

On Happolati’s Miscellany, I linked to Karen Armstrong’s absurdly feeble attempt to understand why ‘Islamophobia’ is so common in the Western world. And since she mentioned Scandinavia in particular, I directed reader’s to Skarphedin’s depressing account of immigrants in Sweden. In the course of it, he provides this quote from a Swedish newspaper:

“It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid. “The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably ****** before, anyway. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries.” It was no coincidence that it was a Swedish girl that was gang raped in Rissne—this becomes obvious from the discussion with Ali, Hamid, Abdallah and Richard. All four have disparaging views on Swedish girls, and think this attitude is common among young men with immigrant background. “It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore—girl, I mean;” says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words.

This is repulsive, of course, but on this blog we try not to avoid hard truths. There are a couple worth noting here. First, Western men don’t much respect Western women either. For example:

My son—the one who is a blond muscular Viking type at Stanford—was home for a visit on Saturday and saw that headline in the Journal. He snarled with outrage and exploded: “Has the sexual revolution been good for women? Hell no! It has turned most of them into unmarriageable sluts. Those women are doomed. They are like used toilet paper. Who wants to touch it?”

And if you think that sounds negative, visit the blogs of the men who are actually using women that way (some of them are on my blogroll).

Second, it’s interesting to note that, whether or not provocative behaviour puts a women in danger (presumably it does), it seems it may well put other women—namely her co-ethnics—in danger. (Though it’s also possible that Hamid and company would just come up with some other excuse if Swedish girls were more chaste.)

Note: crying “don’t blame the victim” is just another example of feminists thinking that women should never be held responsible for their sexual behaviour. There is such a thing as stupid behaviour that is likely to get you into trouble.

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  1. March 31, 2012 3:37 am

    Something that occurred to me about the whole ‘provocative’ behaviour and dress thing. While on the one hand I think there is almost certainly some chance it raises chances of being raped, there is a problem: all the cultures that most buy into the concept that women draw this kind of behaviour on themselves by the way they dress and act are much worse. That is, there is a huge amount of sexual harrassment in these cultures (see here and here).

    So the very solution actually just makes the problem worse because it solidifies in men’s (and women’s) minds that this is just what men do – and as what constitutes ‘provocative’ behaviour or dress is flexible, we just arrive at a point where a women not being covered head to toe is considered an invitation to rape.

    The best solution is to just not allow people from the Middle East or Africa into Europe.

    • March 31, 2012 1:20 pm

      I agree with all of that.

      It seems that it’s hard to both tell men that nothing gives them license to harass or assault women, and tell women not to dress or act in provocative ways. People seem to insist on knowing just whose side you’re on, anyway?

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